Police Sport UK Sailing Section Meetings held during 2015
Minutes of the PSUK Offshore Consultative Meeting 2015.
Minutes of the PSUK Dinghy Consultative Meeting 2015.
Minutes of the PSUK Sailing Section AGM 2015.
2015 Police Sport
UK Offshore sailing consultative meeting
PSUK Dinghy Sailing Championships
18.30 - 19.45 hours - 9th September, 2015
Netley Sailing Club
John Oldham (JO) Chair MPS. Stuart Jenkins (SJ) MPS Nick Mason (NM) MPS. Rob Jones (RJ) Hampshire. Simon Hawkes (SH) Avon and Somerset. Robert Trevis (RT) Sussex Richard Bates (RB) Sussex. Mike Scrivener (MS) Sussex. Marie Bond (MB) West Mids. Peter Muggleton (PM) Leics
1 . Welcome by the Chair:
Welcome by the chair, All forces taking part in the current championships were represented at the meeting.
2. Apologies for Absence:
Roger Glass and Dick Sivers
3. Minutes of the Dinghy Consultative Meetings 2014:
Circulated and reviewed.
Minutes Agreed minor change on attendees - Proposed by JO and Seconded by NM - unanimously carried.
4. Matters Arising:
From the previous meeting linked actions were raised to the Sailing AGM.
1. Can non Police officer / staff crews be allowed in the PSUK Championships. This was dealt with by the 2014 AGM minutes 6d. The matter was raised with the national PSUK committee and not allowed.
2. Can other emergence service crew take part in PSUK championships. Again similar and not allowed.
3. Debate on increasing the number of entries, raised at the AGM linked to the Offshore consultative meeting with no current conclusion.
5. Review of Event
PSUK Single Handed Dinghy Championships - 11 Single Handed Dinghies entered the event.
PSUK Dinghy Championships - 23 Mixed Handicap Dinghies entered the 2 day event
General discussion on how to increase numbers at the events.
All agreed that Sussex had organised an excellent event and JO thanked the organisers for all their hard work. It has been especially hard this year due to the closure of the original venue Bewl valley.
6. Future Events:
Idea muted by MS that there should be a national organising team for the events. Meeting felt that without a specific force driving the event there would be a lack of coordination and motivation.
2016 Met Police with support from others. PM will approach Rutland as a possible venue (central England) MPS members felt that for convenience a return to Netley may be favourable. RB to approach Netley (Ross) to see if they will accommodate with costs.
The meeting felt that any venue should be one with a minimum financial risk due to the unpredictability of the attendance. JO asked that all reps ask their members to commit as early as they can to the organisers.
Correction to minutes
2016 will be hosted by Dorset at Poole. 21-23 June 2016
2017 Met Police
7. Next Meeting:
21st September 2015 - AGM at NCC (ACPO) office, Victoria, London
Police Sport UK
Sailing Section AGM
1400 hrs Monday 21st September 2015
NPCC 10 Victoria street
Everyone welcomed by Chief Constable Sara Thornton to NPCC. Those present were thanked for making the journey. There was a new system introduced, telephone dial in, after a few minor “hiccups” the system worked well and certainly saved time for those further away from London.
Sara Thornton NPCC (ST) Chair
John Oldham Met (JO)
Nick Mason Met (NM)
Rich Bates Sussex (RB)
Members who dialed in.
Nick Shaw Nottinghamshire (NS)
Richard Sivers Northants (RS) Archivist
Marie Bond West Mids (MB)
Pat Weller Dorset (PW)
Barbara Bradley Avon and Somerset (BB)
Stuart Jenkins MPS
Craig Downham, Devon and Cornwall
3 Minutes of AGM 2014
Minutes approved by Nick Mason and Richard Sivers no outstanding actions remain
4. Urgent Matters
No urgent matters
5 Elections of Officers
Chair remains CC Sara Thornton Nominated JO and NM
Secretary DCI John Oldham (MPS) nominated ST and RB
Treasurer Mr Nick Shaw nominated RS and NM
No correspondence for the meeting JO pointed out that all matters that come from the PSUK council are sent out by JO to the regional circulation list.
7 Treasurers Report
Note: The sailing season and the allocation of funds from the PSUK are slightly out of phase this means that the accounts are spread over two seasons.
Police Sport UK – Sailing Section Treasurers Report September 2015
The balance carried forward from last year was £2235. The grant applied for was for £3335 but this was reduced by the grants committee to £3085 giving a balance of £5320, this obviously affects our predicted figures and it is expected that this year’s application for next year’s grant will be similarly reduced.
Of the expected expenditure, payments of £2620 were made as predicted but I have yet to receive requests for winner’s grants of £1850 (offshore) and £500 (dinghy) and the fees for website maintenance of £600. This has left us with a bank balance of £2700 but with potential expenditure of £2950.
The meeting raised this as a serious problem which has lead from the PSUK decision to reduce funding to the section.
RB informed the meeting that the funding allocated to run the dinghy championships (£1000) was under spent and they will be returning return a surplus of £664.91, NS then informed the meeting following a quick recalculation that this will therefore leave a balance of £414.91
The secretary JO will contact Stuart Jenkins, Rob James and Dick Sivers to advise them to draw down their funding as soon as possible.
8 National Dinghy Championships 2015
Verbal report presented by RB, Full report will be sent by RB to JO and RS so will be circulated and on the sailing website. JO will send the report and the financial breakdown to the PSUK ASAP. Trophy information (who has them) will be sent to RS and to JO by RB.
The event was held at Netley sailing club by Sussex with excellent conditions. The MPS won the two day event (Fran Gifford and Peter Walker) and Avon and Somerset (Simon Hawkes) won the single hander event.
Championship run extremely well with a good turn out. Thanks to Sussex was recorded.
Action to RB to provide contact details of the winners to JO and NS so they can be provided with grant to represent the PSUK next year.
Consultative Meeting – Dinghy
Minutes pre-circulated with one action for the AGM. It was asked if the PSUK could revisit their decision and to allow non police family crews to help bring up the number of entries.
This was discussed at the AGM and an action taken by JO to discuss this matter again with Ian Campbell the PSUK secretary to see if this has moved on. It is acknowledged that other clubs are in the same difficulty. JO will also find out the PSUK position with regards to insurance should other non police boats take part in a joint championships. JO will seek PSUK advice on how other sections are swelling numbers and if they have any other type of inclusion policy.
Note JO contacted Ian Campbell the PSUK general secretary and his reply was plain. “Unfortunately the answer is still the same - non police members cannot take part in any PSUK championship event. It is not just an issue of insurance but of making sure no-one misses out as a result of a non police participant taking up a place.”
Outstanding action to next meeting - discuss the use of Social Media to attract new competitors ( in error not raised at AGM) action taken by JO to contact Dorset and R Sivers to discuss.
9. National Offshore Championships 2015
Verbal briefing given by RS and JO. The report was circulated prior to this meeting on the Sailing website
JO asked that Cleveland formally submit the financial breakdown to him. He will then submit the full reports including the financial information to the PSUK.
Event run over 5 days in the Solent based in Hamble. Good winds and weather. Event won by Mason King from the Met. Many thanks recorded to Cleveland police for the organization.
Mason is eligible for Grant for 2016 to represent the PSUK in a suitable event.
Consultative Meeting – Offshore
The Meeting discussed at length how to increase numbers. The championships were poorly attended. Admittedly there had been an attempt to host the event in Scotland. However this is unlikely to have any effect on the actual numbers. It was decided not have an event in 2016 but to take up the possible (awaits confirmation) offer for a world police championships in Croatia.
10. Dinghy events in 2015
RS provided an overview, full details can be found on the Police sailing website which is regularly updated by RS. Numbers and events down again this year however. RS reported that the MPS and Dorset open were a day apart which may have had an effect on numbers, mixed views on this.
11. National Dinghy Championships 2016
The proposal that Dorset will be running the Dinghy Nationals in 2016 at Poole Sailing Club on 21st to 23rd June, 2016 was ratified at this AGM. The organizers were represented at the meeting by Pat Weller. The current plans include Music and a brewery tour. Hard not to enjoy the occasion.
RS has been in contact and will be in further contact regarding advertising on the sailing website and providing data from this year’s event. We currently have the MPS nominated for 2017 which has been approved by the consultative meeting. We have no nomination for 2018. Volunteer, I know Leicestershire always run a good event!
12. British Police Representations 2015
Rob James has been contacted and asked to provide a report if he wishes to draw down the funding. Should he not then this fund will subsidize the offshore winners from 2015. The argument being that financing a large boat competition is very expensive and the current grant whilst welcome in no way covers the costs.
Stuart Jenkins as yet to sail so report to follow his proposal is that the monies from this and last year (his previous winnings be combined. (Agreed by committee) the argument being as above that the costs are so prohibitive. Further he asks that the funding be used to represent the UK police in the worlds next year. This was agreed in principal but will need to be passed via the PSUK secretary to check on this as a suitable us of the funding. Failing this Stuart will enter a UK national competition.
The enquiry to PSUK general committee will be if the police represented event has to be in UK waters.
Note: JO contacted Ian Campbell the PSUK general secretary and he approved the use of PSUK funds for the winners to use out of UK waters however he pointed out that additional funding “just because it is abroad” could not be agreed. This is not the case in this matter.
13. PSUK Metropolitan Police offshore championships 2015
NM reported that due to the very poor turnout in 2014 there will be no event run this year (planned for October 2015)
14. National Offshore Championships 2016
This event will not be run in 2016 however the highest placed UK yacht from the World Police Championships (if held) will be funded to race for UK policing in 2017.
15. Scottish Police North British championships 2014 and 2015
The event was run in June 2015 the results will be published on the Sailing website however we are still awaiting the regatta report from police Scotland.
The event for 2016 is scheduled for 6th to 10th June, 2016 based in the Clyde. Laura Davison from SPA is the contact.
Note if the Worlds offshore event does not take place then this must be the offshore event of choice for next year.
16 Award of Excellence
No nominations this year
17. PSUK funding allocation for 2016
NS I would seek to apply for a grant of £3420 but assuming the grant to be £3000 as a minimum we would have £3414.91 to cover 2016’s budget.
The proposed expenditure as agreed at the AGM 2015 is as below:
18. Any other business
Date of next year’s AGM and other consultative meetings
(NPCC) for AGM - and others will be at the offshore and dinghy nationals)
AGM Date to be set by CC Thornton PA in liaison with JO
Note: it is the responsibility of the organiser of the Dinghy nationals and the Offshore nationals to provide facilities for holding the consultative meetings and publish the dates detail and reports through liaison closely with Richard Sivers and the web site